Left with Crumbs
Here is an update to a story I noted just last week:
The cookie conflict isn't over yet. The spat between two teens from the southwestern Colorado town of Durango and one of their neighbors over a batch of cookies they baked last summer has garnered national publicity over the past week. It has led to donations for the girls.

For Herb and Wanita Young, it has all been a nightmare.

"We have got horrendous phone calls, tons of hate mail, threats to our life," said Herb Young in a telephone interview Thursday.

Here is a recap on what has happened up to now:

The saga began in July when Taylor Ostergaard, 17, and Lindsey Jo Zellitti decided to bake chocolate chip and sugar cookies for their neighbors. They placed them outside with large red or pink construction-paper hearts that carried the message, "Have a great night" and were signed with their first initials: "Love, The T and L Club."


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Things went sour when they approached the Young home. Wanita Renea Young, 49, said she heard someone banging on the door late in the evening and saw "shadowy figures" who refused to answer when she called out to them. The teens later said they did not answer because they wanted the treats to be a surprise.

A frightened Young said she spent the night at her sister's home, then went to the hospital the next morning because she was still shaking and had an upset stomach.

The Youngs said they tried to settle the dispute, even enlisting their clergy. The teens say they offered to pay the medical bills, but Young insisted on going to small claims court where a judge awarded about $900 in medical costs.

When the story was broadcast on a Denver radio station (KOA), callers donated money to cover their expenses. They have become instant celebrities and have been offered national television appearances. A cookie company has introduced a new cookie in their honor: the "kindness cookie".

The winners of the lawsuit have not fared so well:

"It's horrible, nobody has heard our side," said Herb Young, adding the couple has had to hire a lawyer. "I don't believe the girls meant for this to happen. But they could have prevented it from happening if they had just shut their mouths when they came out of (small claims) court. Now they are caught in something they can't control."

The parents of one of the teens asked for a restraining order against Herb Young, accusing him of making harassing phone calls. He admitted calling the Ostergaards once after hearing the teens were talking to a newspaper and at one point said "the gloves were off," which apparently was taken as a threat.

"My home isn't a home any more," Young said. "We are all on pins and needles."

How very sad...All these bad things keep happening to the poor Youngs. (When the Artist gets home, I will have him play a sob song on his violin.)

It is unfortunate that they have been branded modern day grinches. After all, these girls did knock on their door and bring cookies - without their permission. Yes, the girls did offer to pay for their medical expenses, but they didn't offer any damages. Of course, the judge didn't award any either. And now, with an approval rating approaching that of Herbert Hoover, they are are frustrated because nobody wants to be on their side. (Just doesn't look like much fun over there, Herb.)

Someone is definitely caught in something they truly cannot control, but I don't believe it is the nocturnal cookie fiends.

My Prediction: The Youngs will relocate to a different community within a year, having burned all bridges with the residents of Durango.

My Advice: Take a close look at your own actions and figure out what YOU did to get yourself in this mess. Then retrace your way back to civility. There is a way out. It is not a pleasant road but it sure beats the one you are on.

I actually feel a wee bit sorry for these people. If I can scrounge up a few bucks, I might even send them a Cookiegram - if only I could think up a suitable message.

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"The gloves are back on.  Except this time...they’re oven mits.”

Posted by: The Jack - 03:04 PM - 02/10

In the Vedas there are many stories that illustrate how moral principles should be applied when circumstances place them in opposition with each other.  The conclusion is that the ultimate judge of the ethical value of an act is its result. 

This conclusion was plainly stated by Bhishma while lying on a bed of arrows that had pierced through His body.  When Bhismha was a young prince, his father, the King of Hastinapur, lusted after a younger woman.  The woman’s father initially would not allow his daughter to marry the king because the he thought his daughter’s sons should inherit the throne, but they could not as long as Bhishma was the crown prince.  To satisfy the King’s desire, Bhishma took a solemn vow of lifetime celibacy and sacrificed his right to the throne.  Because of the strength of his vow, he received the boon that he would only die when it was his own choice.  The vow later proved troublesome when circumstances dealt that there was no bloodline for the throne, yet Bhishma held fast to his vow even when the Queen Mother insisted he father children for the sake of the kingdom.  Bhishma’s speech at the end of his life (given to Yuddhisthira, the king of dharma, in the presence of Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead) shows that he had realized that the results of an action are the true measure the action’s quality. 

“Even a non-Aryan, lacking wisdom, indeed a very violent man, can achieve very great piety as Balaka did by killing the blind beast. And what is astonishing when a fool, desiring morality but not recognizing it, achieves a very great sin, like Kausika on the Ganges?

“Such a question as this regarding where morality is to be found, is very difficult to answer. It is difficult to calculate, so in this matter, one must resolve the issue by reasoning. Morality is that which prevents injury to living beings. That is the conclusion.

“Morality (dharma) comes from the act of sustaining (dharana). Thus authorities say that morality sustains living beings. So that which provides such sustenance is dharma. That is the conclusion.

“Certainly some people say, ‘Morality is scripture,’ while other people deny this. I do not deny it, but in fact scriptures do not give rules for every case. Whenever people seek unjustly to rob one’s property, it should not be divulged to them. That is actually dharma. If a person can get free by not uttering a sound, then no sound should be uttered. Or, one should necessarily utter a sound if the robbers will be suspicious of silence. In that situation, it is considered better to speak a lie than to speak the truth. One who does so is freed from the sins of taking a false oath.”

This story shows that one must consider the results of the various actions to determine the morality of the actions.  Of course, the actions are still bearing results, but it appears that the girls’ actions caused real trouble for their neighbor (one effect), but the neigbor’s response has given the public perception that the girls are celebrated and the neighbor is vilified (more effects).

Posted by: Pandu das - 08:47 AM - 02/11

I feel a little bad for both parties. Personally, I think the girls used EXTREMELY poor judgement in skulking around in the dark in a rural community and refusing to announce themselves. Yes, I understand they wanted it to be a surprise. But they’re lucky they didn’t get accidentially shot.

And, I certainly understand the woman being a little concerned by the people outside refusing to announce themselves. Personally, I also don’t eat “treats” unless I know who they’re from. Too many weirdos in the world.

On the other hand, what kind of freak sues the people that brought cookies!?!  Seems a tad opportunistic.

Posted by: Lucy - 10:55 AM - 02/11

I think poor judgement is a part of teenagehood.  I do find their poor judgement not terribly bad, considering how many kids die from drug overdoses or drunk driving.

But I think the biggest issue here is that people are not responsible for your past.  If the girls knew about past issues this woman had suffered, then they probably wouldn’t have delivered cookies after dark.  However, just because someone inadvertantly pushes on of my hot buttons, does not give me license to sue them.

It is sad that these people felt the need to sue even after the girls offered to cover their medical expenses.  It seems as if they were trying to make a statement to the girls about how we have to be careful about our actions (a lesson I think they had already learned) and ended up making a statement to the community that reads “We are curmudgeons!”

Posted by: - 03:33 PM - 02/13

Pandu das WTF are you talking about???

YUM YUM YUM ME WANT COOKIE

Posted by: - 01:02 PM - 02/17

both of these idiot people there deserve to be ravished by a thousand hiv positive gorrilas and then when thats done someone really needs to go to work on them.  Maybe the CIA could step in and give them one of their “palistinean hangings.” They are awful people and a waste of good oxygen.  this is a perfect example of just how screwed up our “so called” justice system is these days. 

OUT!!!!

Posted by: - 03:53 PM - 02/17

Heh.  Now come on, Cheeta...tell us how you really feel.

Posted by: - 04:05 PM - 02/17

HaHa,

In all seriousness… it is a travesty that two young people with only kind thoughts be subjected to this scene that those two people enabled to happen.  But this is America where it is unfortunately ok to sue someone for just about anything.

Posted by: - 05:10 PM - 02/17

Whenever a judge (especially in a small claims court, where the process is supposed to be “quick and dirty") makes a questionable decision, people like “Cheetah” invariably site it as an example of “what’s wrong with the justice system.” Most common is the lament, “I’ve lost faith in the justice system.”

I don’t get it.  One decision in one case in one court somewhere and poof!--there goes your faith in the system.  If the light burned out in your refrigerator, would your response be “I’ve lost faith in all appliances?”

Inevitably, when some other lone judge in some other court makes a decision the “forsaken” approves of, you’re gonna hear it:  “My faith in the justice system has been restored!”

Get a grip.  Millions of decisions are made in our courts every week.  Picking a seemingly bone-headed one as representative of “what’s wrong” is, well, bone-headed and wrong.

Posted by: - 04:14 PM - 02/20

Good point, Evan.  Balance is definitely something that we need to have when looking at our legal system.  However, because our system operates on a series of precidents, sometimes it is a single bad decision that serves as the foundation for a future judgement.

Posted by: - 10:58 AM - 02/22
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